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Info-Hams Digest            Mon, 11 Jul 94       Volume 94 : Issue  776

Today's Topics:
                        900 MHz QRM DX record?
                Amateur calls on auto license plates?
                      CW: Complete the Sentence
                         Does CW as a pre-req
                             HDN Releases
                       Legal question (2 msgs)
                     QSL addresses - please help
                            WANTED: SX115
     What sends COMMAS on CW & very high power in Bowie, MD area?

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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:31:12 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!ncar!csn!col.hp.com!srgenprp![e-mail]
Subject: 900 MHz QRM DX record?
To: [e-mail]

   Here in northern California, a couple of us are working on higher
speed digital hardware.  As part of this we have 904.5 MHz 10W digital
transceivers and hardware on hilltops as well as ends of a "backbone"
running data at speeds from 38.4-230.4 kbps.  One of these hilltops is
at 2000' ASL located a few miles inland from the Pacific Ocean on Morhardt
Ridge with 180 degree view of the water horizon.  It has antennas
pointed NW toward k6hsj's QTH at Seaview, also near the coastline but at
1300' ASL as well as east toward n6gn's QTH which is at about 100' ASL
in an inland valley well shielded from a view of the water by a
1000-1500' coastal mountain range.  This hardware has been working
well for quite some time.

   However, on Thursday, July 7 something strange happened; Morhardt
stopped copying packets on 904.5 MHz.  This happened even though its
signals were unchanged and strong, in the -60 dBm territory with >25 dB
of link margin and very copiable.  The outage lasted only a few hours
but soon after it for the next day or so from n6gn and k6hsj's we
observed what appeared to be strong radar centered on 905 MHz about 1
MHz wide.
  Both of us had opportunity to look with spectrum analyzers.  The
signal acted like radar with an antenna rotation time of about 10
seconds, PRF of about 250 Hz but with a few-percent step in PRF every
scan.  The inter-pulse time went from about 4 milliseconds to perhaps
4.1 milliseconds.  The PRF tone sounded like a step or two on the
musical scale.  Pulse on-time was about 125 microseconds for a duty
cycle of around 3%.  After about 24 hours the radar disappeared.

  The funny thing was how strong it was, that we hadn't heard it before
and that it peaked to the west when the antenna at n6gn was rotated.
Though there was a lot of multipath on the signal.  It was copiable
throughout the scan at n6gn and peaks were in the -60 dBm region.

  We immediately began wondering if someone was installing a new marine
radar somewhere along the California coast.  However, this is not
particularly populated coastline and it seemed unlikely.  Thoughts of
QSYing all the radios went through our heads and I went to bed in a bad
mood.

  I woke up the next morning with a crazy thought; "Could there have
been a tropospheric duct to Hawaii?".  That same 2400+ mile path has
been known to provide usable SSB and even NBFM QSOs on all ham bands
from 6M through 10 GHz for well located coastal stations and even once
or twice partway into the interior valleys on 2M.

  In listening to the local 6M DX/EME repeater I heard talk about KH6
being received on 6M, no big deal since E layer has been good and
California <-> Hawaii is fairly common during the season, but this
report was of *tropo*.

  So, my question to the net, particularly to those in Hawaii, is "does
anyone know of a 905 MHz radar with the above characteristics that could
account for what we observed?"  With as much apparant ERP as this thing
would have to have, it should produce pretty good QRM for Part 15 device
users and amateur users of the lower end of the 902-928 MHz ham band.
  Also, are there any other reports of amateur, commercial or TV DX during
the last few days from Califronia <-> Hawaii which could corroborate the
presence of a tropo duct? If not Hawaii, is this a common frequency for
shipboard radars?

  If such a radar does exist in Hawaii, we may be the proud claimants to
the world 900 MHZ QRM DX record title. (:>)


Glenn Elmore n6gn

amateur IP:    [e-mail]
Internet:    [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:13:53 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!eff!news.duke.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!spcuna!starcomm.overleaf.com!n2ayj![e-mail]
Subject: Amateur calls on auto license plates?
To: [e-mail]

>In <2vk24c$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Bate) writes:
>
>>You are absolutely right. Also, thieves can look up your address in
>>the callbook and have a field day while you are in your car.

>In article <2vnjd4$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>In New York anyone can go to the DMV office where you pay parking
>tickets and stand on line to get the name and address for any plate,

In every state I'm aware of, you can get name and address info from a plate;
that's why they're on the car! Ownership of vehicles PRIVILEGED to use
public roads is public record. (Rebut this aspect in nj.politics, NOT HERE!)

Sure, the thieves will look for amateur gear in the vehicles and homes of
the owners of cars with call plates - and drugs in the cars & homes of doctors
with MD plates, and valuables in the homes of anyone who broadcasts their
profession on a vanity plate, or anyone that rudely passed their cool
(stolen?) car on the Parkway on the way to the shore, embarrassing them
in front of their new best friends...

Point is, there are floatey things in every bowl of soup; you can chew on
the greens and complain how bitter it is, or you can recognize they're
there, strain them out, and enjoy the broth. Call plates are no more or less
inviting, IMO, than anything else to your average reprobate. (You think
they don't know what a cell phone antenna looks like?) If they want
you, they'll make an effort to get you.

"Paranoia strikes deep. / Into your life it will creep. / It starts when
you're always afraid..." - Buffalo Springfield

In my experience, I've had to EXPLAIN my plate to most people. (NJ just
modified the law so new plates will say AMATEUR RADIO. They didn't before.)
Anyone who makes an effort to find out what they mean will become either a
ham or a thief? Methinks not. I have too much faith in human nature.
MOST PEOPLE (read "good, decent, honest, hard-workin', God-fearin' folks with
a semblence of manners and a sense of morality who'd love to chat, but have
things to do") just "Oh, how cute" the whole subject.

I'm leaving my call plates on; as another post mentions, they are great PR.

--
Stan Olochwoszcz, N2AYJ - [e-mail]
"Please keep your seat belt securely fastened, keep hands and feet inside the
car at all times, secure loose items, exit to your right, and enjoy your day
at SixFlagsDisneyKing's GreatMagicDominionIsland BerryFarmGardensParkWorldLand."

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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 17:27:41 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp![e-mail]
Subject: CW: Complete the Sentence
To: [e-mail]

Back in the dark days when I was learning the code, there were a
couple of word groups for sending practice, particularly on a
bug or electronic key.  For example:

SUBSTITUTE 66 SHIPS

but the one I forget goes something like:

BENS BEST BENT _____

what's the last word?

Anyone know any more?

Don K6LTS
[e-mail]

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Date: 11 Jul 94 16:35:03 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Does CW as a pre-req
To: [e-mail]

Text item: Text_1

JS>Because the IRU treaty that governs ham radio operations worldwide
JS>forbids it for now.  Until the treaty is changed, knowledge of morse
JS>code is required to access frequencies below 30MHz.

The Japanese don't seem to have any trouble with the treaty. All it
would take is for the US to tell the other nations that we are not
going to honor it anymore... that's what the Japanese did.

73, KG7BK, OOTC, [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 09 Jul 1994 13:22:06
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!convex!seas.smu.edu!rwsys!ocitor![e-mail]
Subject: HDN Releases
To: [e-mail]

The following files were processed Saturday 7-9-94:


HAMANT    [ HamDistNet: Antennas Design and Propagation ]
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ASA11.ZIP    ( 197599 bytes)  Antenna System Analysis v1.1 for
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                              EC

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HAMNEWS   [ HAM: Bulletins and Newsletters ]
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WICEN052.ZIP (   3405 bytes)  WICEN Bulletin #052 07/03/94

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HAMSCAN   [ HAM: Scanner Freqs and Freq database programs ]
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PGH-PD.ZIP   (   2999 bytes)  Pittsburgh, Pa scanner frequencies

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CONTEST.ZIP  (   1498 bytes)  "Contest" Icon for Windows
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DX.ZIP       (   2263 bytes)  ARRL International DX Contest
                              Summary Sheet (ASCII)
DXCC.ZIP     (  10422 bytes)  ARRL DX Countries List 02/94
DXCCLIST.ZIP (   9673 bytes)  DX Countries Listing 07/01/94 by
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NOVSS.ZIP    (   2382 bytes)  ARRL November Sweepstakes Summary
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SNEWS126.ZIP (  11412 bytes)  Satellite News #126 02/07/94
SNEWS127.ZIP (  22733 bytes)  Satellite News #127 02/21/94
SNEWS128.ZIP (  24022 bytes)  Satellite News #128 03/07/94
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Date: 11 Jul 94 17:10:29 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Legal question
To: [e-mail]

On 07-08-94 SHAWN O'DONNELL wrote to ALL...


        SO> No problemo.  If you can order the delivery of a pizza by phone
        patch, SO> you
        can order the delivery of a message.
        SO>
        SO> Who's paying for the pager calls, anyway?  There are "pagers"
        that SO> work on
        ham radios, by the way.
        SO>
        SO> --Shawn

and K5JCM replied . . .

        *NOT* A pizza order is done in "plain langauge". 97.113(d) excludes
        "codes and ciphers" which a pager code certainly is!

and I say . . .

Hold on a minute, let's look at the reg., shall we:

First off, the cite should be 97.113 (4)

   97.113 Prohibited transmissions. - (a) No amateur station shall
   transmit: [subsections 1-3 deleted]

                  (4)     Music using a phone emission except as
   specifically provided elsewhere in this section; communications
   intended to facilitate a criminal act; messages in codes or
   ciphers intended to obscure the meaning thereof, except as
   otherwise provided herein; obscene or indecent words or
   language; or false or deceptive messages, signals or
   identification;

Key here: "messages in codes or ciphers INTENDED TO OBSCURE THE MEANING
THEREOF,".

In initiating a pager, most systems require a standard phone call to the
pager system, where you enter the call back number using the telephone DTMF
pad. This can be done from a DTMF capable radio and phone patch. No ciphers
or codes are sent over amateur frequencies other than the phone numbers,
and those are not sent with an intention to obscure.

In the case of a pager on amateur frequencies, the pager code is
transmitted directly on the amateur bands. Many new HT's, like my 78A, or
the FT-530 have the capacity to be used as pagers in this manner. There is
still no violation, since the pager code is a control code, not a code
intended to obscure. It is the same as the codes used to access an
autopatch, control a remote base, or any other similar function. Just make
sure you are not doing this for business purposes.

My .02

73 (another code) :-)

_____________________________________________________________________
Wm. A. Kirsanoff              Internet: [e-mail]
Rockwell International        Ham: KD6MCI
[phone]
Alternate Internet: [e-mail]
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Who are you? * I am number 2. *  Who is number 1? * You are number 6.
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 17:45:42 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!ulowell!wang![e-mail]
Subject: Legal question
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (William A. Kirsanoff) writes:


>On 07-08-94 SHAWN O'DONNELL wrote to ALL...


>        SO> No problemo.  If you can order the delivery of a pizza by phone
>        patch, SO> you
>        can order the delivery of a message.
>        SO>
>        SO> Who's paying for the pager calls, anyway?  There are "pagers"
>        that SO> work on
>        ham radios, by the way.
>        SO>
>        SO> --Shawn

>and K5JCM replied . . .

>        *NOT* A pizza order is done in "plain langauge". 97.113(d) excludes
>        "codes and ciphers" which a pager code certainly is!

>and I say . . .

>Hold on a minute, let's look at the reg., shall we:

>First off, the cite should be 97.113 (4)

>   97.113 Prohibited transmissions. - (a) No amateur station shall
>   transmit: [subsections 1-3 deleted]
>
>                  (4)     Music using a phone emission except as
>   specifically provided elsewhere in this section; communications
>   intended to facilitate a criminal act; messages in codes or
>   ciphers intended to obscure the meaning thereof, except as
>   otherwise provided herein; obscene or indecent words or
>   language; or false or deceptive messages, signals or
>   identification;

>Key here: "messages in codes or ciphers INTENDED TO OBSCURE THE MEANING
>THEREOF,".

>In initiating a pager, most systems require a standard phone call to the
>pager system, where you enter the call back number using the telephone DTMF
>pad. This can be done from a DTMF capable radio and phone patch. No ciphers
>or codes are sent over amateur frequencies other than the phone numbers,
>and those are not sent with an intention to obscure.

>In the case of a pager on amateur frequencies, the pager code is
>transmitted directly on the amateur bands. Many new HT's, like my 78A, or
>the FT-530 have the capacity to be used as pagers in this manner. There is
>still no violation, since the pager code is a control code, not a code
>intended to obscure. It is the same as the codes used to access an
>autopatch, control a remote base, or any other similar function. Just make
>sure you are not doing this for business purposes.

In fact, 97.3(c)(5) mentions something about "Incidental tones for the
purpose of selective calling or alerting", so it would seem that it
is not prohibited, only that it is considered a "phone" emission
for purposes of the rules.

Dave, KZ1O


--
Dave Bushong, Wang Imaging

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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:33:40 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!ibmpcug!ibmpcug!rcp![e-mail]
Subject: QSL addresses - please help
To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Charles R. Hohenstein) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Scott Earle) wrote:
>>
>> Could anyone tell me the addresses for the following stations?
>>
>>     6Y5GR
>>     FM5GN
>>     FG5BG
>>     HT1T
>> and    CO1RG
>>
>> Thank you very much for any help,
>>
>>     73 de Scott
>>
>Scott, I can't help you on these calls, but I think you have given an
>example of  a possible need for a newsgroup devoted to QSLing--callsign
>server updates, QSL routes, hams who have changed addresses, problems
>encountered with foreign mail systems, etc. Anyone else think this is worth
>an RFD?

Personally I think it is a good idea, but that's only because I don't have all the
callbooks ever printed ...

>Charles
>N9SQE

--
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| Scott Earle,                | Internet  : [e-mail]          |
| Senior Software Engineer,   | AMPRnet   : [e-mail]     |
| RCP Ltd,                    | NTS BBS   : G0SWG@GB7AVM             |
| Dales,                      |                                      |
| High Street,                | Tel (work): [phone]           |
| Didcot, Oxon. OX11 8EQ      | FAX (work): [phone]           |
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 17:58:02 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!gatech!udel!darwin.sura.net!news.Vanderbilt.Edu![e-mail]
Subject: WANTED: SX115
To: [e-mail]

A friend wants a SX115 in good condition.  He lives in southern Illinois and
will want to visit to see the receiver in person.  Please EMAIL me and I'll
forward.
                                       Thanks,
                                           Mike K5WIM

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Date: 11 Jul 1994 15:25:57 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher![e-mail]
Subject: What sends COMMAS on CW & very high power in Bowie, MD area?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Lightning Bolt) wrote:

> One home TV wipes out on all channels when this COMMA machine is on!
> Removes color. Other TVs do not see it. comma & 4 seconds, agn comma.
> (..--..). Not on any ham freq. HF nor 2 nor 6! Abt 15 min at beg. of ever
> hr & 15 min at Half hr.
> Poss. Air Force transmitting station 2 miles away? Dick W1DGA
>
> --
> W1DGA

Either I goofed or you did but ..--.. is a question mark, --..-- is a
comma.

--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== [e-mail], Tel. [phone] Fax. [phone]
== The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.

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Date: 11 Jul 1994 16:22:02 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!trinews.sbc.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2vrj3s$[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Radios for Emergency Use

I tend to agree that a portable cellular is the most graceful way to
accomplish a rescue.  However, if that's not a viable alternative, a civil
aviation band (116-137MHz AM, worldwide) HT is a good alternative.  The fact
that all the receivers are at 2000 to 30,000 feet AGL eliminates the need for
any special power or antenna considerations.  A legitimate Mayday on 121.5 MHz
or an intelligently chosen approach or center frequency will produce a
response.  It is still unlicensed operation, but now at least the radio is
type accepted!  Also, now you won't be stepping on the local sheriff's toes
and your legal dealings will be limited to the FAA and FCC.  Prices for these
radios are only slightly higher than "Ham" HT's and (as a bonus) most of them
receive the weather frequencies (162.55 and such, FM).  You just have to
decide if you want to play or you want to get rescued.  A good dose of natural
common sense would be essential and highly recommended!
-Ken

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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 14:48:24 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!wang![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>ng
Subject : Re: Sock Size Conversion Chart: Inches/CM

[e-mail] (Charles R. Hohenstein) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dave Bushong) wrote:
>>
>> [e-mail] (Art Winterbauer) writes:
>>
>> >I'm not sure why, but in the past week or so, I've had qsos with a
>> >number of people who, in addition to telling me the temperature at
>> >their QTH, have volunteered the size and color of their socks.  I
>> >don't know if this is the beginning of a fad, or if I've simply missed
>> >this bit of info in previous qsos, but I am now responding in kind.
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> In many parts of Europe, the word "sock" is a slang term that refers
>> to the external differentiator of the male anatomy, if you get my
>> meaning.  So when they are asking your "sock" size, they are really
>> referring to something else.  When they ask the "color" of it, they
>> are asking to know if you are gay or not.

>I don't believe this topic is covered in any of the ARRL study guides.

I think that the next release, which should be early spring next year
(4/1/95), will cover this topic thoroughly.

>Since you seem to be in the know, could you tell us about the color coding?
>If I say that I am wearing white socks, have I inadvertently indicated an
>interest in some particular sexual activity? Could you perhaps provide us
>with a table of sock colors and what they mean? I can't imagine bringing up
>"sock colors" myself (I still have trouble with the Q codes), but I would
>definitely like to know the meaning of what I am hearing.

I have a list around here somewhere, but since this is a "family
newsgroup" I can't post them in good conscience.  But the short answer
is that, yes, you have.

If you want to email me, I can send you the sock list, as long as you
indicate that your age is over 18 (or the metric equivalent).

Dave, KZ1O

p.s.  I wear white socks, as long as I have some clean ones.
--
Dave Bushong, Wang Imaging

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